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Thorned Whip

With its requirements met (Str 8 · Dex 16), Thorned Whip reaches 316 attack rating at +25; the strongest affinities at those stats are Flame Art and Sacred at 445.

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Drop: Fire Prelate (4%) · Flame Peak

Attack rating (+25): 316
Scaling (+25): Str D · Dex B
Class: Whip
Weight: 2.5
Requires: Str 8 · Dex 16
Skill: Kick
Passive: Causes blood loss buildup (50)
Upgrades with: Smithing Stones (+25), takes Ashes of War

Thorned Whip, rendered from the game's 3D model — Rendered from the game's model

Attack rating by affinity 13

At Str 10 · Dex 16 · Int 10 · Fai 10 · Arc 10 (each stat at the weapon's requirement, 10 where it has none), one-handed.

Affinity	+0	Max	Damage at max	Scaling at max
Standard	121	316 +25	Physical 316	Str DDex BInt –Fai –Arc –
Heavy	106	278 +25	Physical 278	Str BDex –Int –Fai –Arc –
Keen	118	313 +25	Physical 313	Str EDex AInt –Fai –Arc –
Quality	108	284 +25	Physical 284	Str BDex BInt –Fai –Arc –
Fire	171	381 +25	Physical 190Fire 191	Str CDex EInt –Fai –Arc –
Flame Art	178	445 +25	Physical 221Fire 224	Str EDex DInt –Fai CArc –
Lightning	177	413 +25	Physical 203Lightning 210	Str EDex CInt –Fai –Arc –
Sacred	157	445 +25	Physical 221Holy 224	Str EDex DInt –Fai CArc –
Magic	157	443 +25	Physical 215Magic 228	Str EDex DInt CFai –Arc –
Cold	167	386 +25	Physical 226Magic 160	Str DDex BInt CFai –Arc –
Poison	100	285 +25	Physical 285	Str DDex BInt –Fai –Arc D
Blood	100	285 +25	Physical 285	Str DDex BInt –Fai –Arc D
Occult	104	289 +25	Physical 289	Str EDex DInt –Fai –Arc B

Try your own stats, two-handing and any upgrade in the AR calculator.

Attack rating by stat (Standard, +25)

Dexterity
Strength

Each line raises one stat from the requirement to 99 with the others held at the requirement; dashed lines are Dexterity's soft caps.

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Stat level	Dexterity	Strength
10	–	316
13	–	319
16	316	323
19	327	327
22	337	330
25	346	333
28	356	337
31	365	340
34	374	343
37	383	346
40	392	349
43	400	351
46	408	354
49	416	357
52	424	359
55	430	361
58	436	363
61	441	365
64	446	367
67	452	368
70	457	370
73	462	372
76	467	374
79	472	375
82	475	376
85	477	377
88	479	378
91	481	378
94	483	379
97	485	380
99	487	380

Stat	Soft caps	AR per point, by stretch	At 99
Dexterity	18, 60, 80	16–18: +4 · 18–60: +2.74 · 60–80: +1.75 · 80–99: +0.68	487 from 316
Strength	18, 60, 80	10–18: +1.25 · 18–60: +0.9 · 60–80: +0.6 · 80–99: +0.21	380 from 316

Soft caps are the breakpoints of the scaling curve the game assigns this weapon; past each one a point adds less (or, for some curves, more).

Attack rating by upgrade, by affinity

Standard
Flame Art
Sacred
Magic

At the weapon's requirements (Standard and the 3 strongest other affinities at those stats).

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Upgrade level	Standard	Flame Art	Sacred	Magic
0	121	178	157	157
1	128	188	169	169
2	135	198	180	179
3	143	209	191	190
4	150	219	202	202
5	158	229	214	213
6	165	241	224	225
7	173	251	236	235
8	180	261	248	247
9	188	273	259	258
10	196	283	271	270
11	203	294	283	281
12	211	304	294	293
13	219	316	305	304
14	227	326	317	316
15	235	337	329	327
16	243	348	340	338
17	251	358	352	350
18	259	370	364	362
19	267	381	376	374
20	275	392	388	385
21	283	402	399	397
22	291	413	410	408
23	299	424	422	420
24	307	435	434	432
25	316	445	445	443

Status buildup by upgrade

Cold · Frost
Poison · Poison
Blood · Blood loss
Occult · Blood loss

Per hit at Arcane 10. Affinities not shown keep the same buildup at every level.

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Upgrade level	Cold · Frost	Poison · Poison	Blood · Blood loss	Occult · Blood loss
0	66	66	57	46
1	67	67	58	46
2	69	68	59	46
3	70	69	60	46
4	72	70	61	46
5	73	71	62	46
6	75	73	63	46
7	77	75	64	46
8	78	76	65	46
9	80	77	66	46
10	81	78	67	46
11	83	80	69	46
12	85	81	70	46
13	86	82	71	46
14	88	83	72	46
15	89	84	73	46
16	91	86	74	46
17	92	87	75	46
18	94	88	76	46
19	96	89	77	46
20	97	90	78	46
21	99	91	79	46
22	100	93	80	46
23	102	94	81	47
24	104	95	82	47
25	105	96	83	47

#6 of 7 whip weapons by attack rating

Giant's Red Braid451 +10
Magma Whip Candlestick449 +10
Tooth Whip368 +10
Hoslow's Petal Whip340 +25
Urumi322 +25
Thorned Whip316 +25
Whip298 +25

Standard affinity at max upgrade, each weapon at its own requirements. A full bar is the class's strongest (Giant's Red Braid, 451).

Moveset from the game files

Damage with Standard +25 at the stats above, before the enemy's defense; two-handed moves include two-handing's Strength bonus. MV (motion value) is the hit's share of attack rating (100 = all of it).

One-handed15can't be parried

Move	MV	Damage	Stance	Stamina	1st hit
R1 1Strike	100	316	4	16.1	0.67 s
R1 2Strike	101	319	4	16.1	0.63 s
R1 3Strike	102	322	4	16.1	0.63 s
R1 4Strike	108	341	8	16.1	0.77 s
R2Strike	125	395	8	26.8	—
Charged R2Strike	155	489	16	37.5	1.33 s
R2 2Strike	125	395	8	26.8	—
Charged R2 2Strike	155	489	16	37.5	1.30 s
Running R1Strike	105	331	4	19.3	0.70 s
Running R2Strike	120	379	8	26.8	0.70 s
Rolling R1Strike	90	284	4	12.8	0.50 s
Backstep R1Strike	90	284	4	12.8	0.60 s
Jumping R1Strike	107	338	6	12.8	0.53 s
Jumping R2Strike	123	388	16	26.8	0.77 s
Guard counterStrike	125	395	24	26.8	0.80 s

Two-handed15can't be parried

Move	MV	Damage	Stance	Stamina	1st hit
R1 1Strike	103	332	5.2	19.3	0.60 s
R1 2Strike	105	338	5.2	19.3	0.60 s
R1 3Strike	107	344	5.2	19.3	0.67 s
R1 4Strike	113	364	10.4	19.3	0.70 s
R2Strike	130	419	8.8	32.1	—
Charged R2Strike	160	515	17.6	42.8	1.27 s
R2 2Strike	130	419	8.8	32.1	—
Charged R2 2Strike	160	515	17.6	42.8	1.30 s
Running R1Strike	115	370	5.2	23.5	0.70 s
Running R2Strike	125	402	8.8	32.1	0.63 s
Rolling R1Strike	95	306	5.2	16.1	0.50 s
Backstep R1Strike	105	338	8.8	16.1	0.77 s
Jumping R1Strike	113	364	7.8	16.1	0.53 s
Jumping R2Strike	127	409	17.6	32.1	0.77 s
Guard counterStrike	130	419	26.4	32.1	0.80 s

From the player's animation events, BehaviorParam_PC and AtkParam_Pc. First hit: seconds at normal speed from the start of the move's animation (uncharged R2s start from a released charge, so they show —). Criticals include the weapon's critical multiplier. * The elemental motion value differs from the physical one shown; the damage uses each.

By upgrade level (Standard)

Level	AR	Physical	Cost
+0	121	121	—
+1	128	128	Smithing Stone [1] × 2
+2	135	135	Smithing Stone [1] × 4
+3	143	143	Smithing Stone [1] × 6
+4	150	150	Smithing Stone [2] × 2
+5	158	158	Smithing Stone [2] × 4
+6	165	165	Smithing Stone [2] × 6
+7	173	173	Smithing Stone [3] × 2
+8	180	180	Smithing Stone [3] × 4
+9	188	188	Smithing Stone [3] × 6
+10	196	196	Smithing Stone [4] × 2
+11	203	203	Smithing Stone [4] × 4
+12	211	211	Smithing Stone [4] × 6
+13	219	219	Smithing Stone [5] × 2
+14	227	227	Smithing Stone [5] × 4
+15	235	235	Smithing Stone [5] × 6
+16	243	243	Smithing Stone [6] × 2
+17	251	251	Smithing Stone [6] × 4
+18	259	259	Smithing Stone [6] × 6
+19	267	267	Smithing Stone [7] × 2
+20	275	275	Smithing Stone [7] × 4
+21	283	283	Smithing Stone [7] × 6
+22	291	291	Smithing Stone [8] × 2
+23	299	299	Smithing Stone [8] × 4
+24	307	307	Smithing Stone [8] × 6
+25	316	316	Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone × 1

From +0 to +25: 12 Smithing Stone [1], 12 Smithing Stone [2], 12 Smithing Stone [3], 12 Smithing Stone [4], 12 Smithing Stone [5], 12 Smithing Stone [6], 12 Smithing Stone [7], 12 Smithing Stone [8], 1 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.

Where to find Thorned Whip

Dropped by 1

Enemies the game gives no name, up to 4% per kill · Flame Peak

At Discovery 100. "Once" drops stop after the first (the game sets a flag).

Source not yet traced: the game files we read don't say yet how to get this item.

Attack rating, patch by patch

At max upgrade, Standard affinity, every stat at 40: 413 in 1.02.1 → 425 in 1.17.1, changed by 1 patch.

1.12.1413 → 425 (+2.9%)

Rebuilt from the weapon's own patch history; upgrade and scaling-curve tables are taken as they are today.

Patch history 1

Every patch that changed its numbers, read from the game's balance file (regulation) of each version.

1.12.1from 1.10

Physical attack102→105Standard
Physical attack97→100HeavyKeenQualityFireFlame ArtLightningSacredMagicColdPoisonBloodOccult
Fire attack97→100FireFlame Art
Lightning attack97→100Lightning
Holy attack97→100Sacred
Magic attack97→100Magic
Magic attack78→80Cold

Every changed value (8)

Value	Before	to	After	Change
Key changes 7
Physical attackStandard	102	→	105	+3+2.9%
Physical attackHeavyKeenQualityFireFlame ArtLightningSacredMagicColdPoisonBloodOccult	97	→	100	+3+3.1%
Fire attackFireFlame Art	97	→	100	+3+3.1%
Lightning attackLightning	97	→	100	+3+3.1%
Holy attackSacred	97	→	100	+3+3.1%
Magic attackMagic	97	→	100	+3+3.1%
Magic attackCold	78	→	80	+2+2.6%
Health, stamina and weight 1
Weapon Regain HP Amount	40	→	60	+20+50%

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Overview

Class: Whip
Weight: 2.5
Requires: Str 8 · Dex 16
Affinities: Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Fire, Flame Art, Lightning, Sacred, Magic, Cold, Poison, Blood, Occult
Game ID: 20020000